tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37623912.post5134572162542741689..comments2012-02-28T21:42:24.237-05:00Chrishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05349466286549537039noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37623912.post-63382591350319615982011-03-16T00:27:21.875-04:002011-03-16T00:27:21.875-04:00I had a friend kill himself in a brand new vehicle in his garage just last week without use of a saw or any duct tape, WITH the catalytic converter perfectly in tact. The many friends he didn&#39;t realize he had due to use of Steroid and HGH abuse turned his brain to mush and now a beautiful, sweet, vibrant man is gone forever. Suicide SUCKS for those you leave behind that CARE.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37623912.post-48571802426804847382011-01-27T22:17:13.241-05:002011-01-27T22:17:13.241-05:00Suicide is ones own choice, im sick and tired of ppl commenting against it. Its also nature&#39;s way of controlling the population. Personally it should be legalized and readily available like futurerama. My second, and most valuable argument for suicide is such: When ppl are depressed and feel like they have been defeated, then they are more likely to take it out on others, i.e. shootings, etc. Not having suicide available is alot like being in prison in a sense. Trapped, so of course they go crazy, freak out and take it out on society. Do you really want that? Give them their freedom, their salvation, otherwise they may take it out on you. <br /><br />My idea would be such; Lots of alcohol + Hypothermia! (obviously restricted to those in colder climates. <br />Or <br />Alcohol and a tall tall building. You cant fear what you wont feel.Travelling with Johnnyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01864540524784019320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37623912.post-64730561700930767802010-12-11T15:18:35.143-05:002010-12-11T15:18:35.143-05:00Nitrogen should work nicely. One deep breath of N2 will totally purge the co2 from your lungs and your brain will not know to tell you to breathe. Happens in industry as an accident many times because N2 is inert and used to purge air from hydrocarbon equipment before reintroducing hydrocarbons. Workers sometimes forget that N2 is dangerous because it is inert, and inadvertently enter a vessel that has been N2 purged only to be overcome and pass out. Unfortunately many times another worker will attempt a rescue,only to meet with the same death.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37623912.post-48188597902553733362010-12-01T19:50:08.409-05:002010-12-01T19:50:08.409-05:00There are comments on this page saying people cannot kill themselves using modern cars in a garage. This is incorrect. Just yesterday a 23 year old girl did just this is her garage, only to be found by her mother who called 000. We worked on her for 30 mins, 3 loads of adrenaline, constant CPR and tubed her as well. She was not able to be revived. Carbon Monoxide is a horrible way to die with severe headache, followed by nausea and sometimes convulsions. I dont think people would be so intersted in suicide after they have ventilated a young girl with her dead eyes looking up at you for 20 mins.Disapointed Paramedicnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37623912.post-76587808566882357752010-11-07T01:14:14.753-05:002010-11-07T01:14:14.753-05:00If you think locking yourself in the garage with the car running won&#39;t kill you, tell that to my ex gf. Whose fiance did just that with an early 2000&#39;s pickup. He ended up with something much more serious than a bad headache, he was successful and the cat wasn&#39;t removed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37623912.post-45671141504689035432010-09-21T04:13:54.342-04:002010-09-21T04:13:54.342-04:00Hi, Thanks for the post! my mum recently killed herself via carbon monoxide poisoning, and as painful as it was for me, i needed to know what happened and how etc...and to see CO is on the list of &quot;do&#39;s&quot; can somewhat ease a teeny edge off knowing she wasnt awake or slowly dying and things..and interesting someone says that u are left pink, as i wondered why her fingertips etc were still rosey..anyways thanks..from a women confused in N.Z...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37623912.post-1052083086580153202010-09-09T23:38:52.755-04:002010-09-09T23:38:52.755-04:00This is your last post... gross irony? Graduated? Well regardless, as a Canadian I&#39;d like to see more posts (:Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37623912.post-87798624746627584262010-08-19T06:55:19.947-04:002010-08-19T06:55:19.947-04:00Heey,<br />Came across this site by accident looking up poisions to kill with for an english story. weirdly enough. haha. Very interesting read. My friend and I found the general anaesthetics very interesting. Quick and easy if you can get it. Thanks for the interesting facts.Lauranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37623912.post-90419095580011125122010-08-10T18:22:04.797-04:002010-08-10T18:22:04.797-04:00Actually running a car in the garage can still be effective but you have to remove the catylitic converter. Follow the exhaust pipe from the muffler forward and you will find it. Two minutes with a saws-all and you can have it off. It will take longer with a hacksaw. This should boost the CO concentration in the exhaust enough to do the trick. Tip: instead of letting the garage fill up with CO, just run a hose into the cabin and seal it well with duct tape. Cheers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37623912.post-30127784813006245812010-05-09T01:54:56.838-04:002010-05-09T01:54:56.838-04:00One more little tip for the carbon monoxide (CO) fans out there: it ain&#39;t gonna come from your car. Contrary to popular belief and shows like CSI, you cannot kill yourself by sucking on your car&#39;s exhaust pipes. Nor can you shut the garage and fire up the car to knock yourself off. The newer generation catalytic converters, combined with much cleaner-burning engines, will prevent CO from reaching lethal levels. You&#39;ll simply be left with a crushing headache. Now... perhaps you can get yourself an old &quot;classic&quot; car and give it a whirl. If so, select a pre-1972 model. Be sure to leave it to me in your will :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37623912.post-85441995548452131092010-04-14T00:34:14.824-04:002010-04-14T00:34:14.824-04:00What a fantastic post! Do you have any idea how difficult it is to find reliable information when you&#39;re trying to kill yourself? Now the only problem is how to make it look like an accident... I&#39;m sure you didn&#39;t intend for your post to be used in this way, but wouldn&#39;t you prefer a well thought-out, well-researched, scientifically-minded suicide to a dodgy botched one?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37623912.post-2133080297673702742009-11-28T23:23:23.940-05:002009-11-28T23:23:23.940-05:00I&#39;ve always felt that aside from suicide induced by exposure to extreme cold (such as on a mountain summit, or outdoors in a severely cold climate), an ideal method of preference would be through use of a one-way breathing circuit fitted with a C02 absorbing canister. A colleague used something along these lines many years ago to end his own life (he was a medical pulmonologist). Visualise a schematic that features a rubber, over-the-head mask fitted to a breathing hose (such as that found on the surplus Russian GP-5 or GP-6 gas mask); after the exhalation valve is tightly sealed shut on the mask, the distal end of the mask&#39;s breathing inlet hose is connected to a circular breathing circuit that features an in-line C02 absorbing canister (filled with color-indicating soda lime granules) and an in-line breathing reservoir (of about 50 liters capacity, such as in a small latex meteorological balloon). The breathing circuit also features two one-way check valves to keep respired gas circulating in the same direction. Since C02 provides the body&#39;s principal chemoreceptor warning of pending asphyxiation (and spurs increased respiratory efforts), the person using such a circuit would (in theory) feel none of the anxious, &#39;breathless&#39; sense of panic that a hypercapnic state normally provokes as the available 02 in the circuit continues to be consumed. Assuming the C02 absorber is up to the task of scrubbing rebreathed room-air of all the exhaled C02 while the circuit is in use, and assuming the reservoir of room-air provided is sufficient to the task as well, the user should soon succumb to asphyxia without undue discomfort. Unconsciousness ensues well before terminal hypoxemia occurs (eg. death). Of course, any premature disruption of the process (prior to actual death) may leave the user alive, but in a state of severe permanent brain vegetation, so such an assembly is NOT to be attempted without a great deal of careful planning and calculation beforehand. The physical assembly of a system like this is rather easy to cobble together from available pulmonary hardware, but the usual warnings apply: &quot;Kids, don&#39;t try this at home! Professional suicide by professional (and DETERMINED) death-wish pursuer.&quot;Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37623912.post-65522899901067428392009-05-05T15:01:00.000-04:002009-05-05T15:01:00.000-04:00The May 15, 1965 New Yorker Magazine, in Annals of Medicine (by Berton Roueche) told an amazing story. An farmer in the Ozarks grafted tomatoes onto Jimson weed rootstock so that he would get a longer tomato-growing season.<br /><br />Jimson weed (Datura stramonium) is a cousin to tomato, so the farmer's taxonomy was on target, sort of. However, the secondary metabolites of Jimson weed include atropine, hyoscyamine and scopolamine, and they wound up in the tomato fruit. The first tomato of the season pretty much wiped out the farmer's family.<br /><br />It's a fascinating story. At the time Roueche wrote about it, I don't recall that the actual mechanism -- why the poisons wound up so concentrated in the alien fruit -- was known, but it may be now.<br /><br />I found the whole story so interesting (including the historical elements of early European thinking that the tomato was poison)that I got my NY state botany certification with studies of the Solanaceae.Diggitthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16416825000872117152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37623912.post-28815303225910375912009-04-14T06:09:00.000-04:002009-04-14T06:09:00.000-04:00Great post.<br /><br />You mentioned table salt in your previous article as something not to kill yourself with, but reduced sodium table salt would be a great addition to this post.<br /><br />It's mainly KCl instead of NaCl. If you were to inject a saturated solution of that into your blood, the massive increase in potassium concentrations would almost certainly stop your heart.<br /><br />I'm sure I read somewhere that it's KCl + Anaesthetic that's used in those euthanasia clinics around the world.Synchroniumhttp://www.synchronium.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37623912.post-44145710305306987722009-03-27T09:35:00.000-04:002009-03-27T09:35:00.000-04:00Did I miss good old fashion tylenol (acetaminophen) on your list. It is one of the most common substances used in suicide attempts as I witnessed first hand working on a psych ward for a few years. All it takes if about 15 extra strength tabs and Mr. Liver is going to start packing his bags to check out.Wolfganghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06495813752382821117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37623912.post-30019638207899001082009-03-24T12:20:00.000-04:002009-03-24T12:20:00.000-04:00Is it weird that this was the last article?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37623912.post-39363604269488587102009-03-14T10:02:00.000-04:002009-03-14T10:02:00.000-04:00carbon monoxide is meant to be painful,<BR/>but if you want a pain free and pleasant (as it gets) death Nitrogen is the way to go hypoxia <BR/><BR/>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrogen#Safety<BR/><BR/>there was a documentary on the tv in the UK about the death penalty and the show found the gas was the bestRichard Thttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08751363187594648443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37623912.post-72812155144959125732008-11-27T00:43:00.000-05:002008-11-27T00:43:00.000-05:00Hi There! I'm writing a story right now that I hope you can help me with. You see my main character is a bartender who has a very large collection of poisons and drugs. While looking for some interesting ones, I found your blog. <BR/><BR/>This may be a little forward of me but could we talk poison sometime? I love all the strange affects these things can have over people. Even thought and reason can be chemically overridden. My email's anime_wolf@hotmail.com, I really do hope we can chat.BloodyTrollophttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07344446933763911786noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37623912.post-63721179738916121912008-11-10T14:33:00.000-05:002008-11-10T14:33:00.000-05:00Grossly elevated potassium in blood is easy to find post mortem if one is looking for it. You need to inject it intravenously and that will leave a mark. The injection is searingly painful because of the high salinity. Thats why convicts condemned to lethal injection are given strong general anethetic and a muscle paralysis agent first - so that they dont wriggle with pain, when finished off with KCl.<BR/><BR/>I think the most reliable/painless method is a BASE jump without a shute. Leaves a mess though.milkshakehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08188961610554710616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37623912.post-80205751627546196532008-11-08T15:11:00.000-05:002008-11-08T15:11:00.000-05:00What about Potassium Chloride, as written on another web site?....<BR/><BR/>Potassium Chloride (Injected In Solution)<BR/>Dosage: not known (try 20cc injection of strong solution)<BR/>Time: Seconds to minutes<BR/>Available: Widely available<BR/>Certainty: Certain given correct dosage<BR/>Notes: Causes heart attack (which is painful). May be difficult for coroner to realise it was suicide rather than a natural heart attack. An excess of K+ in the blood interferes with nerve signals, and stops muscles and nerves from working. So when it reaches your heart, the heart stops.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37623912.post-8924025532270825682008-10-27T16:40:00.000-04:002008-10-27T16:40:00.000-04:00In Victorian times they had much better selection than nowadays - arsenic, strychnin, morphin. One of the favorite poison plants was Wolfbane - it is easy to extract a highly potent taste-free poison from its roots, the aconitin is difficult to detect and produces symptoms of heart attack, the plant is very common and has been grown as a decorative plant in back yards. I remember Wolfbane was mentioned in the whodunit stories before - one particularly insidious poisoning plot involved bees being placed intentionally next to flowering Wolfbane, to produce poisonous honey.milkshakehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08188961610554710616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37623912.post-64335171101039698352008-10-18T12:26:00.000-04:002008-10-18T12:26:00.000-04:00I'm an aspiring writer who's fascinated by poisons (there's something seductive about substances that can kill you slowly and quietly). I need a recommendation, however. If you lived at the turn of the 20th century and wanted to create a poison essentially from scratch, how would you do it? How would you even go about it? I've been reading up on poisonous plants--hemlock, of course, foxglove, nightshade, etc.--would that be the best method? What are the effects of ingestion? Are there any other items that would have been available in a Victorian house that would work more efficiently than these plants?<BR/><BR/>Thank you so much. This is an amazing site you have here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37623912.post-67032872769346685612008-10-15T12:49:00.000-04:002008-10-15T12:49:00.000-04:00I'll choose...C.D. Clementshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01225767353928506275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37623912.post-7368665256403571772008-10-05T04:53:00.000-04:002008-10-05T04:53:00.000-04:00How about ammonia? If I remember well, it has depressing effects on breath center.<BR/>Also tv crime series writers seems to agree on effectiveness of potassium chloride (injection required).<BR/><BR/>PS: I'm the commenter on the previous post. I also don't condone suicide, and I was not looking for advice.richard77http://www.blogger.com/profile/06608399268867346690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37623912.post-76905007542765036842008-10-03T19:42:00.000-04:002008-10-03T19:42:00.000-04:00Hey isobel. I altered the link so it can be accessed by non-U of Toronto people. Sorry about that.<BR/><BR/>milkshake, I can always count on you to spice my post up with an insightful comment. My thanks.Chrishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05349466286549537039noreply@blogger.com